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From: "Fortune, Steven (Steven)" <steven.fortune@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Miro Hroncok <miro@hroncok.cz>
Subject: RE: Voronoi license
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:07:46 +0000
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Hi Miro:
The lawyers finally came through. The license, attached, will be distribute=
d with the Voronoi software in the future.
I hope it is sufficient for your needs.
--Steve Fortune


-----Original Message-----
From: Miro Hroncok [mailto:miro@hroncok.cz]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:18 PM
To: Fortune, Steven (Steven)
Subject: Re: Voronoi license

Hi again,
hope you are ding well.

Is there any progress with your lawyers?


Thank you very much,
Miro Hron=E8ok

Jabber: miro@hroncok.cz
Telefon: +420777974800


2012/10/8 Fortune, Steven (Steven) <steven.fortune@alcatel-lucent.com>:
> Hi Miro:
> Times have changed.
>
> Well, since you asked your lawyers, I have to ask mine.  I don't see that=
 there
> will be an issue; I will try to get back to you quickly.
> --Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miro Hroncok [mailto:miro@hroncok.cz]
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:03 PM
> To: Fortune, Steven (Steven)
> Subject: Re: Voronoi license
>
> Hello again,
> I am sorry to disturb you, but unfortunately I am not able to use you
> parmmision to include your software in Fedora.
>
> This is what I got from Fedora legal mailing list:
>
> Unfortunately, no. His wording is inconsistent and confusing. Saying
> something is unlicensed means that we only have the minimum permissions
> granted by copyright law, which is not enough for us to include it in
> Fedora. If we ignore that (which we can't), his statement of permission
> to use the code in any way we choose is also incomplete, because "use"
> has a specific legal meaning, and it does not include things like
> modification or distribution (although, the latter is somewhat implied
> in his "permission" to attempt to sell the code for a profit).
>
> I would ask him politely if he would be willing to permit us to
> distribute his code under the terms of the MIT license (extremely
> permissive terms):
>
>   Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
>   a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
>   "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
>   without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
>   distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
>   permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
>   the following conditions:
>
>   The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
>   included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
>
>   THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
>   EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
>   MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
>   IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY
>   CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT,
>   TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
>   SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.
>
> He can grant us this permission without needing to change his code,
> since he is the copyright holder, and it will make this software
> permissible in Fedora.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> So I am asking you, if you could grant me a permission to distribude
> the code under the terms of MIT license (above) - you don't have to
> change anything in code.
>
> Thanks,
> Miro Hron=E8ok
>
> Jabber: miro@hroncok.cz
> Telefon: +420777974800
>
>
> 2012/10/5 Miro Hron=E8ok <miro@hroncok.cz>:
>> OK, thanks.
>>
>> Miro Hron=E8ok
>>
>> Jabber: miro@hroncok.cz
>> Telefon: +420777974800
>>
>>
>> 2012/10/5 Fortune, Steven (Steven) <steven.fortune@alcatel-lucent.com>:
>>> It's unlicensed.  I just gave you permission to use it.
>>> --Steve Fortune
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Miro Hroncok [mailto:miro@hroncok.cz]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:13 AM
>>> To: Fortune, Steven (Steven)
>>> Subject: Re: Voronoi license
>>>
>>> Could you please write me an exact permission to use it and package it
>>> under the terms of some existing licence licence?
>>>
>>> GNU GPL, WTFPL, MIT, BSD, I don't care. If you don't care, WTFPL would =
be great.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Miro Hron=E8ok
>>>
>>> Jabber: miro@hroncok.cz
>>> Telefon: +420777974800
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/10/5 Fortune, Steven (Steven) <steven.fortune@alcatel-lucent.com>:
>>>> Hi Miro:
>>>> You are free to use the code in any way you choose, including attempti=
ng to sell it for
>>>> a profit (I think people have).  The code was written long before lice=
nses became standardized.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Steve Fortune
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Miro Hroncok [mailto:miro@hroncok.cz]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:03 PM
>>>> To: Fortune, Steven (Steven)
>>>> Subject: Voronoi license
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am currently packaging this perl module for Fedora:
>>>> http://search.cpan.org/~samtregar/Math-Geometry-Voronoi-1.3/lib/Math/G=
eometry/Voronoi.pm
>>>>
>>>> As the License part says:
>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can tell the underlying C code used here never had a lice=
nse attached to it, or if it did I couldn't find any trace of it. If this w=
orries you please contact Steve and Derek through the links above.
>>>>
>>>> As for a package in Fedora, I need the know the license, or the
>>>> package cannot be used, could you please specify it at least in mail?
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>> Any GPL compatible licese will do the job, as the Perl module is
>>>> licensed as Perl itselfs (GPL or Artistic).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your help,
>>>> Miro Hron=E8ok
>>>>
>>>> Jabber: miro@hroncok.cz
>>>> Telefon: +420777974800

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